• Part of the story so far here.

The below ORR was sent to TCSG staffer Tierra Harris Dec. 12, 2023 at 1:20 AM (!)

Ms. Harris,

Please send me a copy of any and all documents (or a link to these documents) that explain and define acceptable ID for submission by registered apprentices as per your statement “”we also require a copy of IDs for all registered apprentices.”

Please send me a copy of the document that explains the TCSG ID submission to the registered apprentice.

Thank you,

D.A. King
Marietta

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Reply received Dec. 19, 2023 11:01 AM from Brandon Ona:

Upon review of TCSG’s apprenticeship-related documents, we have identified two documents (attached PowerPoint and MOU Template) that include information on the requirement to provide a copy of the photo identification of the apprentice. TCSG collects photo identification to administer apprenticeship-related funding, specifically the HDCI program.

Our office does not have a publicly defined list of acceptable photo identifications to administer apprenticeship grants/funding, however, in practice, we request a government-issued photo identification.

The photo ID is used to verify that the apprentice information is correct and correctly corresponds with what is registered within the RAPIDS system. RAPIDS is the USDOL-registered apprenticeship database and apprentice management system that is managed by the federal Office of Apprenticeship. Per USDOL, registered apprentices are required to be employees of the employer. The federal USDOL, USCIS, or SSA would have further information regarding documentation requirements around employment.

Best regards,

 

 

 

Updated with reply

The below email was sent to the Georgia Student Finance Commission today at 12:39 PM.

*Update: Dec. 20, 2023 – 3:20 PM. No reply yet. Just resent to multiple addresses.

To whom it may concern:

Please send me copies of any and all documents, records, online pages and/or GSFC website pages that illustrate or refer to

A) Language in state law and or GSFC policy or practice that excludes illegal alien students from Dual Enrollment benefits and participation.

B) Language in current law or GSFC policy or practice that provides for verification of eligibility for above.

Thank you,

D.A. King

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*Reply received Dec. 15, 2023 at 4:43 PM from Mr. Stephen DeBaun, GFSC General Counsel. *Mr. DeBaun’s response went to my junk mail file. I apologized to him for missing it.

Note: In addition to the link below,  putting “Dual Enrollment” in the GSFC search box goes to this info. I pasted the contents of the relevant pages of the GSFC “Dual Enrollment Program Regulations – 1600. 2023- 2024 Award Year” here.

“Dear Mr. King,

Thank you for your request. The Open Records Act requires state agencies to respond to requests for agency records with all responsive documentation that they currently possess. However, under O.C.G.A. 50-18-71(j), “No public officer or agency shall be required to prepare new reports, summaries, or compilations not in existence at the time of the request.”

All GSFC program regulations, including those for Dual enrollment, are made available to the public on our website here: Programs and Regulations | Georgia Student Finance Commission.

The Georgia Student Finance Commission is not the custodian records for the Official Code of Georgia Annotated.  Accordingly, the Commission has no records responsive to the request for the Georgia statute.  The Georgia Code may be reviewed, free of charge, on the Georgia General Assembly website here: Georgia General Assembly (ga.gov).

Otherwise, the Commission does not have any records corresponding specifically to your request and is prohibited from conducting legal research or providing legal advice to members of the public. Therefore, we cannot perform any research on your behalf or provide an opinion regarding the content of your request.

Sincerely,

Stephen DeBaun General Counsel Georgia Student Finance Commission Office: 770.724.9019 Toll Free: 800.505.GSFC

 

 

 

• DONATIONS CAN BE MADE HERE.

We need financial help to continue to fight illegal immigration in Georgia.

The Dustin Inman Society has been active since 2005 and we are proud of the fact that we have made a difference. I have decided to continue for another year. The 2024 state legislative session will be my 19th. The difference between now and when I started is worthy of a book. Honest.

I am very uncomfortable doing it, but am asking for your help to pay the various expenses involved in opposing the corporate-funded, anti-enforcement leftists, the liberal media, the anything-for-a buck business lobby and some Republicans in government – all of whom push to reward and encourage illegal aliens in Georgia.

* Many of the illegal immigration-related laws we worked to get passed here in Georgia are not being enforced.

* Georgia is home to more illegals than Arizona and Atlanta alone has seen more than 46,000 “migrants” arrive since 2021.

* There is at least one state pro-enforcement bill coming in 2024. More info soon.

With your help, we were successful in stopping several incredibly bad bills under the Gold Dome last session. One example? HB 131 from Rep Kasey Carpenter (R) would grant “instate tuition” in our public colleges to some of Georgia’s illegal aliens while Americans and legal immigrants from other states pay three times as much in the same schools.

There are more bad bills pending and coming in January.

*  A Gold Dome parking pass costs $650.00 for the 2024 session in Atlanta. I go to the Capitol often to watch committee hearings.

Without apology, we regularly point out that Gov. Kemp has not enforced our existing sanctuary city policies and has not honored his 2018 campaign promise on “criminal illegals.”

We will continue to expose the facts left out of “the news.”

*  Georgia now has sanctuary counties.

We are looking forward to our pro-enforcement work for another year but we are long out of personal funds.

If you are able, please consider helping us?

* DONATIONS CAN BE MADE HERE.

The below transcript is D.A. King’s welcome, kick-off speech at the start of the 2007 Dustin Inman Society rally in front of the Bush White House in opposition to the amnesty attempt of that year.

Video of this kick-off speech here.

Video of all the presentations at the event here.

Audio below.

 

D.A. King :

… very beautiful park on this absolutely gorgeous day in this beautiful city. The very first thing I want to do is make sure that everybody is conscious of the fact that right now we have brave border patrol agents risking their lives to do the job to which they are sworn. The border patrol right now is on our borders trying their best with the tools they are given to secure our borders. And my ambition is to say, thank you, border patrol. Maybe we can’t say it loud enough for them to hear in Arizona or Texas or North Dakota, but we can say it loud enough for the people in the White House to say it. One, two, three, thank you, border patrol.

Audience:

Thank you, border patrol. Wow!

D.A. King:

We can do better. Let’s try it again, one, two, three. Thank you, border patrol!

Audience:

Thank you, border patrol! Wow!

D.A. King:

Ladies and gentlemen, the Dustin Inman Society is an organization that is based in Georgia. It is named after my friend’s son, Dustin Inman, who lost his life on Father’s Day weekend about seven years ago. The Inman family was on their way to the Georgia mountains on a fishing trip for Father’s Day.

Someone who was in this country illegally, an illegal alien, ran a car into the Inman family’s vehicle when it was stopped at a light, killing Dustin at age 16, and putting his mom in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. Dustin Inman is but one of the many Americans who go uncounted, who have paid the ultimate price for the fact that our borders are intentionally unsecured. Billy Inman asked me to say this, illegal immigration must stop.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

Dustin Inman is dead because our borders are unsecured. I take great exception to people telling me about cheap labor. This afternoon, a lot of my friends are gonna say a few words to you about what they know about our borders and illegal immigration. But before we get started any further, I wanna make it very, very clear to everyone who is here what we are doing today. We have a very clear message. Our message is this, we demand that the borders of the United States be secured as is required by the Constitution of the United States.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah! Wow!

D.A. King:

We demand that these president of the United States obey his oath of office, secure our borders, and equally apply the rule of law like I was taught should happen in the ’60s.

Audience:

Yeah!

D.A. King:

We are here today to demand justice for the bankers and the criminal employers who are allowed to hire illegal aliens.

Speaker 3:

Put them in jail.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

Maybe somebody could point out to me an example of wages in the United States having gone up because of illegal immigration, but I doubt it. We are here today to demand that there is no repeat of any path to citizenship amnesty like was tried in 1986.

Audience:

Yeah! [inaudible 00:04:10].

D.A. King:

We are making it clear that the majority of the American people understand that amnesties, no matter what they’re called… this week does not secure our borders, it does not stop illegal immigration, and it does not stop illegal employment. We are demanding no more amnesty and a memo to the president and a memo to Congress. This is not negotiable.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

While we’re on the top of amnesty, has anybody noticed that there is no provision in any of these schemes to punish the criminal employers or the bankers for having broken the law?

Audience:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

They should be in jail!

D.A. KIng:

They should be in jail, the man said. I agree. Finally, we are to demand that the English language be the [inaudible 00:05:58] of the United States.

Audience:

Yeah! USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

D.A. King:

• Now, having said that, if there is anybody here who is here with a different agenda, if there is anybody here who has issues with the color of people’s skin or their national origin, you are not welcome, you are not invited, you will not be tolerated. And if you are here for any other reason than what I just outlined, you are not welcome. Please leave.

Audience:

Go. GO. Go home now. Go home now. Go home now. Racists go home. (laughs).

D.A. King:

It’s a very sad day in America where we have to spend our Sundays demanding an equal application of the law. We are in a struggle to save the sovereignty of our nation, ladies and gentlemen. And I don’t think I’m telling you anything, when I made it clear the price of losing is open borders and the loss of the republic that Ben Franklin challenged us to keep so long ago.

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

We will not lose, we will not compromise, and we will not bargain with the rule of law or secure borders.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

Last year, we all saw millions of illegal aliens marching around the United States of America chanting, and I love this one, “Justice, dignity, amnesty, and citizenship.” They were screaming, “This is our continent,” and they were screaming, “We are America.” Let me tell you something, as Americans, we are America.

Audience:

Yeah! USA, USA, USA.

D.A. King:

I don’t know wha- how many of you are aware of the fact I live in Georgia. In Georgia, we passed a law in April called the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act. It is by far the strongest state-level law aimed at controlling illegal immigration in the country. We just finished our legislative session, we have added to that law. What we are seeing in Georgia is this: illegal aliens are looking for more friendly states because they know that in July, when our law begins, Georgia is going to be a very, very inhospitable place.

Audience:

Yeah. Wow!

D.A. King:

Employers are starting to ask questions about how to obey existing law.

Audience:

Wow! Yeah.

D.A. King:

What we’re seeing, folks, is simply a demonstration of a very easily understood fact. Enforcement, even the promise of future enforcement works. What we want is our federal government to enforce our laws.

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

While we’re on the topic of the Georgia law, I wanna say a quick thank you to a very dear friend of mine, State Senator Chip Rogers of Georgia.

Audience:

Yeah. Yeah.

D.A. King:

Without Chip Rogers, we would not have this law. I admire his courage, and I hope all of you have a Chip Rogers in your own state.

Audience:

Wow. [inaudible 00:09:35].

D.A. King:

Now, something I wanna make clear, illegal immigration did not happen overnight, it took 30 years for this to happen. Illegal immigration should never have started, but it should have ended in 1986 with the one-time amnesty.

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

It did not. Illegal immigration should have ended on the 12th day of September 2001.

Audience:

Yeah. Wow!

D.A. King:

It did not. Does anybody besides myself start to get the idea that the president has absolutely no intention of securing American borders?

Audience:

Yeah. [inaudible 00:10:20].

D.A. King:

Thank you, folks. For those of you who are going to lobby on the hill tomorrow are gonna speak to Congress. I have a respectful suggestion. They’re gonna ask you, “Where do we start?” Start this with this, “Have a goal to as enthusiastically enforce immigration laws as the government of Mexico does.”

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

Mexico uses its troops on its borders. Illegal employment is virtually unknown in Mexico. Illegal immigration is a felony in Mexico. Mexico deports more people every year than does the United States of America. There’s a good goal, start with that. I’m done here. I wanna finish with a quote. This is from a lady named Barbara Jordan. How many people know Barbara Jordan was?

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

This is a quote from Barbara Jordan from 1995, I believe. “Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence. Those who should get in, get in. Those who should be kept out, are kept out. Those who should not be here, will be required to leave. Employer sanctions can work.” These are the words of Barbara Jordan. Take that to the hill tomorrow.

Audience:

Yeah! Barbara, Barbara, Barbara, Barbara.

Speaker 4:

Our immigration system is not broken. Enforce the law.

D.A. King:

Enforce the law as the man said. What a concept. Thank you all very much again for coming on this beautiful day. Please remember the border patrol agents. Now we have a lot of speakers. We’re pretty good on time.

 

 

The below reply and follow up was received from Rep Martin Dec. 5, 2023 at 8:00 AM.

The original request is here.

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Mr. King,

To my reading and the reading of others with whom I have consulted, SB 379 via definitions, particularly in lines 19 – 33, requires the participant (“Apprentice”) and the employer (“Apprenticeship sponsor”) to be registered in Georgia and with the U.S. Department of Labor Office of Apprenticeship. Further, *a bulletin from the Office of Apprenticeship explains in part, “all individuals who are eligible to work in the U.S. are afforded an opportunity to participate and complete a RAP [registered apprenticeship program].”

Additionally, lines 52 – 55 outline employer application, providing another layer in assuring compliance with all applicable Georgia Law and Federal Law.

In sponsoring the legislation in the House in my role as Higher Education Chair, I relied on Senator Strickland’s statement that SB 379 stacks on underlying Georgia and Federal Law as outlined above.

Best Regards,

Rep. Chuck Martin.

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*Note: In my own reply to this response I asked Rep Martin for the title and date of the *U.S. DOL bulletin he cited and he was kind enough to send me this bulletin, (which I had already found and read). I am grateful to Rep Martin.