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• Part of the story so far here.

The below ORR was sent to TCSG staffer Tierra Harris Dec. 12, 2023 at 1:20 AM (!)

Ms. Harris,

Please send me a copy of any and all documents (or a link to these documents) that explain and define acceptable ID for submission by registered apprentices as per your statement “”we also require a copy of IDs for all registered apprentices.”

Please send me a copy of the document that explains the TCSG ID submission to the registered apprentice.

Thank you,

D.A. King
Marietta

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Reply received Dec. 19, 2023 11:01 AM from Brandon Ona:

Upon review of TCSG’s apprenticeship-related documents, we have identified two documents (attached PowerPoint and MOU Template) that include information on the requirement to provide a copy of the photo identification of the apprentice. TCSG collects photo identification to administer apprenticeship-related funding, specifically the HDCI program.

Our office does not have a publicly defined list of acceptable photo identifications to administer apprenticeship grants/funding, however, in practice, we request a government-issued photo identification.

The photo ID is used to verify that the apprentice information is correct and correctly corresponds with what is registered within the RAPIDS system. RAPIDS is the USDOL-registered apprenticeship database and apprentice management system that is managed by the federal Office of Apprenticeship. Per USDOL, registered apprentices are required to be employees of the employer. The federal USDOL, USCIS, or SSA would have further information regarding documentation requirements around employment.

Best regards,

 

 

The below transcript is D.A. King’s welcome, kick-off speech at the start of the 2007 Dustin Inman Society rally in front of the Bush White House in opposition to the amnesty attempt of that year.

Video of this kick-off speech here.

Video of all the presentations at the event here.

Audio below.

 

D.A. King :

… very beautiful park on this absolutely gorgeous day in this beautiful city. The very first thing I want to do is make sure that everybody is conscious of the fact that right now we have brave border patrol agents risking their lives to do the job to which they are sworn. The border patrol right now is on our borders trying their best with the tools they are given to secure our borders. And my ambition is to say, thank you, border patrol. Maybe we can’t say it loud enough for them to hear in Arizona or Texas or North Dakota, but we can say it loud enough for the people in the White House to say it. One, two, three, thank you, border patrol.

Audience:

Thank you, border patrol. Wow!

D.A. King:

We can do better. Let’s try it again, one, two, three. Thank you, border patrol!

Audience:

Thank you, border patrol! Wow!

D.A. King:

Ladies and gentlemen, the Dustin Inman Society is an organization that is based in Georgia. It is named after my friend’s son, Dustin Inman, who lost his life on Father’s Day weekend about seven years ago. The Inman family was on their way to the Georgia mountains on a fishing trip for Father’s Day.

Someone who was in this country illegally, an illegal alien, ran a car into the Inman family’s vehicle when it was stopped at a light, killing Dustin at age 16, and putting his mom in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. Dustin Inman is but one of the many Americans who go uncounted, who have paid the ultimate price for the fact that our borders are intentionally unsecured. Billy Inman asked me to say this, illegal immigration must stop.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

Dustin Inman is dead because our borders are unsecured. I take great exception to people telling me about cheap labor. This afternoon, a lot of my friends are gonna say a few words to you about what they know about our borders and illegal immigration. But before we get started any further, I wanna make it very, very clear to everyone who is here what we are doing today. We have a very clear message. Our message is this, we demand that the borders of the United States be secured as is required by the Constitution of the United States.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah! Wow!

D.A. King:

We demand that these president of the United States obey his oath of office, secure our borders, and equally apply the rule of law like I was taught should happen in the ’60s.

Audience:

Yeah!

D.A. King:

We are here today to demand justice for the bankers and the criminal employers who are allowed to hire illegal aliens.

Speaker 3:

Put them in jail.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

Maybe somebody could point out to me an example of wages in the United States having gone up because of illegal immigration, but I doubt it. We are here today to demand that there is no repeat of any path to citizenship amnesty like was tried in 1986.

Audience:

Yeah! [inaudible 00:04:10].

D.A. King:

We are making it clear that the majority of the American people understand that amnesties, no matter what they’re called… this week does not secure our borders, it does not stop illegal immigration, and it does not stop illegal employment. We are demanding no more amnesty and a memo to the president and a memo to Congress. This is not negotiable.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

While we’re on the top of amnesty, has anybody noticed that there is no provision in any of these schemes to punish the criminal employers or the bankers for having broken the law?

Audience:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

They should be in jail!

D.A. KIng:

They should be in jail, the man said. I agree. Finally, we are to demand that the English language be the [inaudible 00:05:58] of the United States.

Audience:

Yeah! USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

D.A. King:

• Now, having said that, if there is anybody here who is here with a different agenda, if there is anybody here who has issues with the color of people’s skin or their national origin, you are not welcome, you are not invited, you will not be tolerated. And if you are here for any other reason than what I just outlined, you are not welcome. Please leave.

Audience:

Go. GO. Go home now. Go home now. Go home now. Racists go home. (laughs).

D.A. King:

It’s a very sad day in America where we have to spend our Sundays demanding an equal application of the law. We are in a struggle to save the sovereignty of our nation, ladies and gentlemen. And I don’t think I’m telling you anything, when I made it clear the price of losing is open borders and the loss of the republic that Ben Franklin challenged us to keep so long ago.

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

We will not lose, we will not compromise, and we will not bargain with the rule of law or secure borders.

Audience:

Yeah! Yeah!

D.A. King:

Last year, we all saw millions of illegal aliens marching around the United States of America chanting, and I love this one, “Justice, dignity, amnesty, and citizenship.” They were screaming, “This is our continent,” and they were screaming, “We are America.” Let me tell you something, as Americans, we are America.

Audience:

Yeah! USA, USA, USA.

D.A. King:

I don’t know wha- how many of you are aware of the fact I live in Georgia. In Georgia, we passed a law in April called the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act. It is by far the strongest state-level law aimed at controlling illegal immigration in the country. We just finished our legislative session, we have added to that law. What we are seeing in Georgia is this: illegal aliens are looking for more friendly states because they know that in July, when our law begins, Georgia is going to be a very, very inhospitable place.

Audience:

Yeah. Wow!

D.A. King:

Employers are starting to ask questions about how to obey existing law.

Audience:

Wow! Yeah.

D.A. King:

What we’re seeing, folks, is simply a demonstration of a very easily understood fact. Enforcement, even the promise of future enforcement works. What we want is our federal government to enforce our laws.

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

While we’re on the topic of the Georgia law, I wanna say a quick thank you to a very dear friend of mine, State Senator Chip Rogers of Georgia.

Audience:

Yeah. Yeah.

D.A. King:

Without Chip Rogers, we would not have this law. I admire his courage, and I hope all of you have a Chip Rogers in your own state.

Audience:

Wow. [inaudible 00:09:35].

D.A. King:

Now, something I wanna make clear, illegal immigration did not happen overnight, it took 30 years for this to happen. Illegal immigration should never have started, but it should have ended in 1986 with the one-time amnesty.

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

It did not. Illegal immigration should have ended on the 12th day of September 2001.

Audience:

Yeah. Wow!

D.A. King:

It did not. Does anybody besides myself start to get the idea that the president has absolutely no intention of securing American borders?

Audience:

Yeah. [inaudible 00:10:20].

D.A. King:

Thank you, folks. For those of you who are going to lobby on the hill tomorrow are gonna speak to Congress. I have a respectful suggestion. They’re gonna ask you, “Where do we start?” Start this with this, “Have a goal to as enthusiastically enforce immigration laws as the government of Mexico does.”

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

Mexico uses its troops on its borders. Illegal employment is virtually unknown in Mexico. Illegal immigration is a felony in Mexico. Mexico deports more people every year than does the United States of America. There’s a good goal, start with that. I’m done here. I wanna finish with a quote. This is from a lady named Barbara Jordan. How many people know Barbara Jordan was?

Audience:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

This is a quote from Barbara Jordan from 1995, I believe. “Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence. Those who should get in, get in. Those who should be kept out, are kept out. Those who should not be here, will be required to leave. Employer sanctions can work.” These are the words of Barbara Jordan. Take that to the hill tomorrow.

Audience:

Yeah! Barbara, Barbara, Barbara, Barbara.

Speaker 4:

Our immigration system is not broken. Enforce the law.

D.A. King:

Enforce the law as the man said. What a concept. Thank you all very much again for coming on this beautiful day. Please remember the border patrol agents. Now we have a lot of speakers. We’re pretty good on time.

 

 

The below open records request was sent to Ms.Tierra Harris, Apprenticeship Specialist at the Technical College System of Georgia yesterdays at 9:09 PM. TCSG administers the Registered Apprenticeship Program.

 

Ms. Harris,

Thank you again for your quick replies to my request. I have another.

1) Please send me a copy of all applications, forms, documents and affidavits required by TCSG to process and issue final approval of an applicant for participation in the HDCI/ Registered Apprenticeship Program was an employer and/or sponsor.

2) Please send me a copy of any record that illustrates the total number of past and current participants in the Registered Apprenticeship Program (RAP).

3) Please send me a copy of any instructions and/or checklist for applicants for participation in the RAP that lists all required forms/applications or affidavits and/or guides applicants in proper completion of the forms and/or affidavits required to complete for final approval.

4) Please send me a copy of any record that lists the names of the businesses that have or are participating in the RAP

5) Please send me any record that illustrates the total payout to employers who have participated in the RAP/HHCI program since inception.

To make this request easier for you, please just send me a link to any of the documents that are on the internet. My goal is to create a comprehensive electronic list/package of these documents with links to as many as possible. Due to your kind efficiency I already have the links to the sample application and the final MOU, so there is no need to resend those.

Thanks again, please feel free to call me with any questions.

D.A. King

 

 

 

 

 

 

A very nice and knowledgable staffer at the Technical College system of Georgias called late yesterday to offer help on understanding the workings of the taxpayer-funded HDCI program  created by the GOP-ruled legislature and signed into law in 2022 by Gov. Brain Kemp.

That you very much, Brandon Ona.

Audio on the bottom.

Transcript by Rev.com. My cost, $20.00 and about two hours.

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dak:

“…really, Brandon, what, what I’m trying to do is, is gain some knowledge on, on this program which I’ve done and you’ve just helped.

Brandon:

Yeah.

dak:

But I’m trying to discern whether or not that I… I’ve read the legislation…

Brandon:

Mm-hmm.

dak:

… the legislation two years ago. I’m trying to figure out if there is any hump in the road that will prevent or detour somebody in the country illegally from participating in this program either as an employer or as an individual apprentice, uh, apprenticeship m- uh, program member o- o- or, an employee, and I, I can’t find one. I would love for you, if you can direct me towards any language in the law or the policy that would stop that from happening.

Brandon:

In the, um… Well, it, so I, I wanna make sure I understand it. That, so you’re, you’re wanting to, to, to know what, what’s in place to stop, um, somebody that may not be eligible to work, um, because they’re i- undocumented or for whatever reason from participating in the program. I- is that right?

dak:

That, that is, uh… Yes, sir.

Brandon:

Okay, so, um, and, and I can, uh, have the folks that actually, you know, um, lead the program itself, um, follow up on that, but, um, generally once a company applies to participate, um, a- and as you’ll see in the application, uh, what we do require is, um, that one, they provide a lot of information on their company. Um, but the main thing there, um, is that we’re able to see that one, um, the company itself is, uh, registered to operate in the State of Georgia, um, with the Secretary of State’s office. And then from there, uh, we look to make sure that they’re current on all state taxes since it is a program funded by state tax dollars. Um, so that’s on the company side.

Um, on the participant side, um, itself, uh, we do collect, um, the US Department of Labors, um, apprentice forms, um, and so those are federal forms that do require, um, detailed information about each apprentice that is participating, uh, and then from there, um, I, I… There’s something else, so we require that form, um, I think… I’m gonna try to remember, look up i- and my apologies if I’m-

dak:

No, no, no.

Brandon:

… not-

dak:

You’re doing great.

Brandon:

… too, too familiar. One second. Um…

I think it’s the [inaudible 00:02:42]. I’m trying to find the checklist. Well, I don’t think there is a checklist per se, but, um, what we use.

Okay. Um… Want that one.

Okay, so we require, um, a, uh, yeah, the, the federal f- um, apprenticeship form, um, that proves, uh, you know, registration of that particular apprentice, um, copy of photo identification and then a wage verification, um, that they’re employed there.

dak:

Copy of photo identification of what description, please, sir?

Brandon:

The, the photo identification of the apprentice.

dak:

Y- yeah, but what, from, like, a, a state or any government issued photo ID?

Brandon:

Correct.

dak:

So can it… Does it have to be Georgia specific?

Brandon:

Um, I, we don’t spell that out specifically in this particular requirement, but, um, I, I don’t know if we’ve had an instance where somebody provided something from another state, but I, but that would be… That would have to… We’d have to double check with the folks. Um-

dak:

Would, would a, a, a student ID from Georgia State take-

Brandon:

No. It would have to be govern- yeah, government issued, so like a state driver’s license, a passport, um, something like that.

dak:

Okay, but not a student ID from a government, s- taxpayer funded school?

Brandon:

No. That’s, yeah. Thank you, that, that’s not allowable, but, but we could check in on that. I don’t-

dak:

Okay.

Brandon:

I don’t think so.

dak:

Ca- w- can I access or can you please sort of send me whatever resource you’re looking at that outlines that checklist?

Brandon:

Sure. Yeah, we can, um… So what we have is like a, um, uh, like an MO- a, a template MOU that we have with the companies ’cause each company goes and enters into a contract. Um, yeah.

dak:

Well, if you, if I could see the MOU, then I would wash your car.

Brandon:

Sure. Yeah, yeah. No, but that’s fine. Um, we’ll need to get a, um, a draft. I, I need to ask the team for a draft of it, um, to make sure we have, I, I get you an accurate one. Um, but yeah. That, that’s something that we can provide.

dak:

Um, o- okay. The, the, the, the, the MOU you said you had a template for. Uh, all I’m looking for is, is whatever you’re looking at, the template.

Brandon:

Yeah, no. The, so the template would have in there, like, the, the requirements for it, the required documentation that they have to provide for each apprentice.

dak:

Okay. That, that, that, that helps a lot, and I, I, I appreciate it very much, so-

Brandon:

Mm-hmm.

dak:

… um-

Brandon:

Yeah.

dak:

… but, the, the e- there is no information gathered from the employer. Is that, is y-… And is that called the sponsor?

Brandon:

The emplo-… So there’s, so no, no. In the registered apprenticeship program, there’s two entities. Um, there’s an employer who employs the apprentice in the registered apprenticeship program, so that’s that person that’s usually… Well, not usually. They’re on payroll. Um, they are an employee of that particular company. Um, and then there’s the program sponsor. Sometimes that is the employer, um, so if you’re looking at, like, a larger company, um, you know, uh, they’re, you know, a larger corporation, um, will probably wanna be a sponsor as well as the employer, um, just because they have the resources to do, and they have more control over the program.

Um, but if, uh, but in other cases, uh, the sponsor could be an external organization that’s partnering with them on the apprenticeship program, so that could be a technical college. It could be an industry association. It could be a union. It really just depends on the nature of the particular program.

dak:

Okay. This is very educational. Thank you very much, so i- if, the, is the, the entirety of the information that is collected by TCSG, is the application th- th- that I was sent earlier today, right? There’s no- there’s nothing, there, there’s no other information gathered other than on that in- that what’s listed on that app?

Brandon:

Um, so during due diligence, um, we, we look to make sure that what’s provided in the application is, is accurate. Um, whether that be through the-

dak:

Oh, okay. Okay.

Brandon:

… the documentation that they, um, provided on the front end, or, um, if, you know, we need to double check, you know, uh, and, and, and also, for that, um, you know, part of the, the criteria is the characteristics of the company itself, and so sometimes we have to conduct some due diligence. Also, you know, sometimes companies may apply, um, and they may not actually have an active, registered apprenticeship program, and so that’s something that we need to screen for on the front end.

dak:

Oh, okay, uh, ha- have, Brandon, have you ever… Do you have, let me put it a different way. I, I’m trying to locate the, the application for registration with the US Department of Labor into the apprenticesh- into their apprenticeship program. I’m having trouble finding that app. Have you ever seen one?

Brandon:

The application? Um, so it’s called the Standards of Apprenticeship, um, is, is the, the full… So I, I should say a couple things. There is the Standards of Apprenticeship, uh, which, um, they have template documents on apprenticeships.gov. Um, but the official form itself that is the apprenticeship agreement is form 671.

dak:

Oh, that’ll help-

Brandon:

It’s called an ETA form 671.

dak:

What, do, d-… What are those letters again?

Brandon:

ETA. Um, echo, tango, alpha.

dak:

Ah, cool. Well, this is, this is, d-

Brandon:

Yeah, um, so ETA six, d-… Um, and then there, well, let me see if the, duh-duh, ETA form 671. Yeah [inaudible 00:08:58]-

dak:

Program registration and apprenticeship agreement?

Brandon:

That’s correct, yes.

dak:

Outstanding. I’m going to wash your car for sure now.

Brandon:

(laughs)

dak:

Okay.

Brandon:

Um, yeah, that, so that’s the… Any apprentice has to have this, this particular form, um, registered apprentice, sorry, um, if, if you’re in a US registered apprenticeship program.

dak:

I get it. So once… Excuse me. The caveat on the Georgia end is that you must first be registered with the US Department of Labor to participate. This is the application that-

Brandon:

That’s correct. Yeah.

dak:

… that goes after that, that registration?

Brandon:

Yes. Now, it could be, you know, it and, um, my understanding is that if there’s a company that does apply and let’s say they’re in the process of registering that program, um, but as long as it is registered at the time of the contract execution, um, then, you know, that’s, that’s permiss-… I mean, we need all the documentation before we enter into a contract. Um, but there may be, uh… My understanding is that there may be cases where a company may apply, um, but they’re currently going through the process with US DOL to get that approved, um, and, and sometimes that does take a little bit longer just because it’s, um, it, it’s a, you know, a registration process with a federal agency. Um, so that, that does, you know, take some time.

But usually with that, they’ll provide us some sort of documentation or, or, or some sor- i- provide us with some sort of information that demonstrates that they are going through that process actively.

dak:

Okay. B- big help, so-

Brandon:

Sure.

dak:

… thank you for calling, and I forgot why you called. And please forgive me. When I answered the phone, it said, um, “Spam alert,” so-

Brandon:

Uh, try to… Oh, okay. I, I often get a towing company. I think I, the number I have used to be a towing company. (laughs)

dak:

Okay, well-

Brandon:

Yeah, sorry.

dak:

… a- a- anyway, very helpful and, and thank you very much, okay?

Brandon:

All right. Sounds good. And then I will, um, I’ll… It’ll probably be tomorrow or the day after, uh, but I’ll see if, um, our team can send you over the draft MOU that we use.

dak:

Outstanding. Thank you again.

Brandon:

Yep, thank you.

dak:

Yes, sir. Bye.

 

 

 

OPINION

An opportunity to ask Rep Bill Werkheiser about “Opportunity Tuition” for illegals

Dear editor,

As a someone who has worked on immigration-related matters for the last nineteen years in the state Capitol, this writer is curious: What are the opinions of readers on creating a state law that would allow residents who are in the U.S. illegally to attend taxpayer-funded colleges in Georgia at a much lower tuition rate than Americans and legal immigrants who come from other states?

I also wonder if area Republicans are aware of Rep Bill Werkheiser’s ideas on that topic.

Appling County Republicans who take advantage of the upcoming opportunity to hear from Rep Bill Werkheiser at the October 19, county GOP meeting may want to ask some detailed questions about legislation he has signed onto. As Americans of all descriptions who take a “pro-enforcement” approach to immigration, we at the Dustin Inman Society hope voters will ask about Rep Werkheiser’s decision to be a cosponsor of HB 131.

HB 131 is legislation that would create a new, special tier of tuition at Georgia’s taxpayer-funded colleges for illegal aliens who are recipients of former President Barack Obama’s deferred action on deportation for illegal aliens who came to the U.S. as “children.” That program is widely known now as “DACA” and has been found to be illegal multiple times in various federal courts. One of them was the 11^th circuit appellate court that in March of 2019 issued a unanimous opinion that included the ruling that illegal aliens with DACA are still illegal aliens. “As DACA recipients, they were simply given a reprieve from removal; that does not mean they are in any way lawfully present…” wrote the panel.

Another federal judge found DACA illegal just last month.

The sponsors of HB 131 have decided to try to allow the illegals in Georgia with the illegal DACA status (about 20k in total) to pay instate tuition plus 10% while an American who lives in Michigan or Kansas, or any other state would pay the much higher out-of-state rate. How much more would the American or legal immigrant pay at South Georgia College?

According to the school’s website, instate tuition at South Georgia State College for a 15-hour class load is $1425.00. The out-of- state charge is $5395.00. The illegals with DACA would pay $1425.00 plus 10% under the language of the bill. Quick math shows that under the proposed new law, an “undocumented” student would pay $1567.50 ($1425.00 plus 10%) for the 15-hour course load while the American paid the full $5395.00.

That’s a difference of $3827.50 per semester if my calculator is correct.

Sponsors of HB 131 have labeled the new, special, low rate for the illegals as “Opportunity Tuition” and the DACA students who benefit from paying less that Americans as “Opportunity Students.”

Rep Werkheiser is one of three Republican cosponsors on the bill along with seven Democrats. The lead sponsor is Rep Kasey Carpenter of Dalton. There are literally hundreds of thousands of illegal border crossers with children on their way into the U.S as I type. Georgia is already home to more illegals than Arizona.

D.A. King – president, The Dustin Inman Society, for the board

Marietta

• This letter to the editor was published in the weekly Baxley News-Banner today. We are grateful for the space.