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An immigrant on illegal immigration in GOP Georgia – DIS board member Dr. Mary Grabar on her former home state

February 15, 2023 By D.A. King

“It’s sad to see what has happened under the leadership of Gov. Brian Kemp. He and the lawmakers supporting the illegal alien favoritism are obviously following the corporate donors and not the will of the people.”

By Dr. Mary Grabar

As a proud, pro-borders immigrant and once longtime resident and voter in Georgia with familial and friendship ties that bring me back frequently, I watch the political scene in my former home with wonder and angry sadness from upstate, Democrat-ruled New York. Are the Georgia state legislators not aware of the nation’s illegal immigration catastrophe and President Joe Biden’s disgraceful and illegal open border policies? 

I am appalled that some Republican Peach State legislators are pushing a plan to change state law so that some illegal aliens can pay a lower tuition rate than Americans and legal immigrants in the state’s public colleges. I refer to HB 131 from Rep. Kasey Carpenter, R-Dalton, and (Republican) cosponsors Rep. Dale Washburn of Macon; Rep Bill Werkheiser of Glennville and Rep Penny Houston from Nashville.  

Carpenter was also able to get more Democrat cosponsors on his bill than Republicans according to the complete list of signers. 

Carpenter is calling his “illegals first” legislation the “Workforce Development Act.” It’s an apparent attempt to garner support from fellow lawmakers who are being pushed by the donor class to make life easier for illegals in Georgia. And Carpenter’s name for the new tuition rate for illegals is “opportunity tuition.” The illegal aliens who would benefit are known as “opportunity students.”  

As someone who taught English in a number of Georgia’s colleges and universities for twenty years, l think I am qualified to say that we can understand such terminology by studying a famous writer—George Orwell.  

Amazingly, another GOP effort includes illegal aliens in a hoped-for new state program to send state dollars to parents of K-12 students to cover the costs of a private school education. It’s being called “school choice” and “putting the parents in charge.’’ 

School choice? It isn’t really for taxpayers who will be subsidizing the private school education of children of lawbreakers.  

Parents in charge? No, it’s more like lobbyists in charge. I’ve seen them under the Gold Dome as I’ve testified with parentson such issues as Common Core. I’ve seen the throngs of illegal aliens brought into a hearing who shouted me down as I’ve told legislators about how professors at Georgia public universities were giving students academic credit for writing to legislators against immigration enforcement legislation and indoctrinating them in La Raza ideology.  

In my years of teaching in Georgia colleges I have had students whose ancestors had been enslaved rush from work for an evening class, legal immigrants from Nigeria who attended daytime classes after cleaning offices at night, and working white and Hispanic students happy to be able to attend a community college. Why should these law-abiding people be asked to subsidize tuition for those here illegally?  

As someone who was born in a Communist country, where the politically connected get privileges at the expense of the common people, I have always been impressed by American standards of lawfulness and fairness. 

But what I am seeing in Georgia is a subversion of these foundational principles. At one time the state provided a clear contrast to blue states. Today, there are only six states with more illegal residents than Georgia. 

It’s sad to see what has happened under the leadership of Gov. Brian Kemp. He and the lawmakers supporting the illegal alien favoritism are obviously following the corporate donors and not the will of the people. Many of the laws put in place a decade ago to roll up the welcome mat for all things illegal immigration are now ignored by Kemp and many state and local GOP officials.   

There are many ways to make the illegal aliens crossing the southern border today consider migrating to a state other than Georgia. Assuring them special treatment — including in our education systems — is not one of them. Georgia’s conservative voters should be as outraged as I am that Georgia is becoming more like Democrat New York every year.  

I hope Carpenter’s HB 131 is treated as the shameful dream from an ambitious political pawn of the corporate lobby that it is. 

A member of the board of advisors of the Dustin Inman Society, Mary Grabar earned her Ph.D. from the University of Georgia and taught college English for 20 years. Since 2014, she has been a resident fellow at The Alexander Hamilton Institute for the Study of Western Civilization in Clinton, New York. Get on her email list at dissidentprof.com and read her articles at marygrabar.com. 

The above essay originally ran on the subscription outlet Insider Advantage Georgia, on Feb 13, 2023. Mary also sent us a copy. We post the3 above with permission. I added a few educational links to provide information not available in “the news” or from establishment Republican commentators. dak

Filed Under: Older Entires

Open records request (4of 4) to Glynn County Sheriff’s Office Dec. 29, 2022 Jose Luis Galvan-Chavez/Jose Lopez Gutierrez – OCGA 42–4-14

January 3, 2023 By D.A. King

The below post is in process and incomplete.

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Jose Lopez Gutierrez.

FBI #: L5HFF9PA9

State ID # (SID): GA5178569P

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The below was sent to the GCSO at 3:52 PM January 3, 2023.

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Undersheriff Morales, please see below my original request from Dec. 29, 2022. Because of your quick response and the many emails we exchanged, there may be some error on my part here, but I do not see that I have received the items that I have highlighted in bold italics from that request. Will you please send or resend those records?

I am looking for any and all records (paper of electronic) that indicate contact and reply from federal authorities on the apparent GCSO query on immigration status for the individual now known as Jose Lopez Gutierrez.

* Also, in sorting through my sent email from last week, I see that I sent you an “off topic” email in error. The photo of my fresh-picked peppers was meant for another recipient who is a gardener and also a Marine. I am very sorry for the mistake.

Thank you,
D.A. King
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My original request:

As discussed, please send me a copy of any booking report for a subject who was confined in your jail using the name Joe Luis Galvan-Chavez, aka Jose Luis Galvan-Chavez who was booked into Glynn County Sheriff Office jail on or about Friday, 23 Dec. 2022.
Please include a copy of any intake photo of subject.
 Please include a copy of any electronic record or document that may indicate alternate identity or name/alias of this person.
Please include a copy of any document or record that indicates country of birth of this subject – or GCSO effort to discern country of birth.
Please include a copy of any electronic record or document that illustrates GCSO compliance with OCGA 42-4-14, including contact with LESC or other official source regarding immigration status of this subject – if he is foreign born.
Please include a copy of any document or record pertaining to any existing ICE hold on the subject.
Thank you for your professional and patient treatment on the phone this morning.
Thank you for what you do.
Respectfully,
D.A. King
The Dustin Inman Society
NewDustinInmanSociety.org 
ImmigrationPoliticsGA.com
2984 Lowe Trail
Marietta, GA. 30066
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Reply:
The reply from Undersheriff Morales includes the below ICE detainer notice.
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Filed Under: Older Entires

D.A. King on Augusta radio with guest host Phil Kent — Dec. 27, 2022 The Austin Rhodes Show Audio & transcript – OCGA 42-4-14 #SchoolChoice

December 27, 2022 By D.A. King

The Austin Rhodes Show (Dec 27, 2022)

https://newdustininmansociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Augusta-radio-phil-k-Dec-27-2022.m4a

Transcript by Rev.com My cost: $44.00 and two hours

Guest show host Phil Kent:

“You’re back with Phil Kent, sitting in for Austin Rhodes today, and, uh, you can text me, especially as we interview our next guest over at 706-863-5800. We were talking before the news to Congressman Rick Allen, and we touched a little bit on the, uh, open borders problem nationally.

But my next guest is really an expert in this area in Georgia, and this is D.A. King, President of the Dustin Inman Society. He’ll tell you a little bit about how that society got named, and what he’s doing, and I want to talk about, uh, what’s going on with regard to the illegal immigration problem in Georgia.

Uh, we can talk about it all day nationally, but D.A. King, you’re on the air with Phil Kent. How are you?

D.A. King:

I’m very, very well. Phil, I’m glad to be here, and I’ve been listening to your show. You are doing your usual stellar job as a radio host, and I want to add something to the show, and that is, Go Dawgs!

Guest show host Phil Kent:

(laughs) Absolutely. We’re on the side of the angels on that one too. But, um, I know you’re very much appreciated for all you have done in the past dozen years or so, and helping to implement some, uh, not only immigration control laws in this state through the legislature, but you’re also saying, “Let’s just enforce the laws on the books.”

So, I, I want you to focus a little bit on Georgia, and what are you and the Dustin Inman Society doing?

D.A. King:

Well, that- that’s kind of… You, you, you said my, uh… My favorite word when it comes to illegal immigration, which I regard as organized crime. I appreciate you’re saying the word enforcement, and, and thank you again, Phil.

The Dustin Inman Society is a, a labor of love here at our house. In the year 2003, I, set aside my own business and spent our savings, and, and refinanced our house to try to form a non profit to educate people, in- including legislators, and it used to be the media, on illegal immigration.

It’s TheDustinInmanSociety.org. it’s named after a Georgia kid named Dustin Inman, who is forever 16 because his family was hit by a speeding car on their way to the North Georgia mountains on Father’s Day Weekend, the year 2000.

Um, an illegal alien driving a car ran into the back of the Inman family car in [inaudible 00:02:44] Georgia, stopped at a light, and it killed Dustin instantly, and put his mom in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. Both, um, parents were put in a… In a coma, and when they woke up, they were told their only child was gone.

Um, and people sometimes tell me that illegal immigration is, is, is a victimless crime, and, and I, I would double dog dare them to tell that to the Inman family if there was an Inman family left. The sad ending to that story, Phil, as, as you know, is that Billy and Kathy were the parents and Dustin was the… Was the only child.

Dustin was killed in the crash. Kathy later died of a… Of her injuries as a direct result of the crash after she spent 20 years in a wheelchair, and Billy died before she did, taking care of his wife and trying to earn a living. It- it’s a horrible, horrible story-

Guest show host Phil Kent:

It, it is, it’s a sad story.

D.A. King:

[inaudible 00:03:40] upset. I get upset when people tell me that it’s a victimless crime.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, I’m glad you’re underscoring that. Think of all the Dustin Inmans, uh, since then, uh, it- it- it’s outrageous, but I’m glad. That was probably the spark that motivated you, right?

D.A. King:

It, it was. Uh, we have a website, The NewDustinInmanSociety.org, but while I’m on that topic, and [inaudible 00:04:00] before I go, but we have something that’s, that’s directed only at Georgia, and it’s called ImmigrationPoliticsGA.com.

IImmigrationPoliticsGeorgia, as in G-A, .com, and- when we have true to life immigration stories, and opinions, and news that are relevant r- right here in Georgia, and by the way, for people who don’t know, Georgia is home to more illegal aliens than is Arizona.

We have more people living here illegally than we have green card holders. That’s right here in the state of Georgia.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

That’s a shocker.

D.A. King:

It, it is a shocker.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, so what now? What is the, uh… What’s the mission now in Georgia?

D.A. King:

Well, we- we’ve been very successful in the last 17, 18 years, getting, legislation passed here in Georgia on a state level aimed at deterring illegal immigration into the state, and what we have learned from watching the corporate funded illegal alien lobby is that if you make it more difficult for somebody here illegally to get a job, a benefit, or a service, especially a driver’s license, th- they tend to go to other states after they cross the border illegally.

And we put a, a large number of laws on the books, and we’re grateful to all of the state legislators in the past who helped us, most of whom are gone now, and what we’re finding is the laws aimed at, at illegal immigration in Georgia, including criminal illegals, are being completely ignored by the people we elected to enforce them.

And I know that, that a conservative audience doesn’t want to hear negative reports about Republicans, but the fact is that the laws on the books aimed at illegal immigration in the state of Georgia are being treated as a joke.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

How can we, um, get these laws enforced? Do we, uh… Do we contact the Attorney General’s office, do we contact our lawmaker, what, um… What is your strategy?

D.A. King:

Well, I’ve been at it quite awhile, I do it all day everyday. Um, as an example, I, I just… You have to go one at a time, as far as I know, and I mean this sincerely. I’m not trying to be a smart alek, but as far as I know, there’s nobody in the state of Georgia checking on compliance of any of the multiple laws we have in place, e- except for yours truly.

And recently, I filed a complaint with, um, the District Attorney for over Carroll County, Georgia. It took me about a year to give Carroll County commissioners to recognize they were in violation of laws aimed at giving public benefits to illegal aliens.

Um, they eventually, after about eight months, slowly started to change their, their… The way they did business, but I filed a complaint and nothing is going to happen, is the short version. But things like this, Phil, kind of get a little blurry eyed, boring to people.

When you talk about jobs, benefits, and services we have on the books, for example, a law that says most employers in Georgia with more than 10 employees are supposed to use the no cost federal e-verify system.

Uh, we, we know that if, if, uh, somebody here illegally can get a job easier in Alabama or Nebraska than you can in Georgia, he will at least try to, to a- avoid us, but the e-verify laws are not enforced.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, and that’s, that’s a tragedy. You know, just as an aside, when I have workers at my home, I, I have to always check, “Do you have e-verify?” And if not, they’re not working, uh-

D.A. King:

Yeah.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

At least at my place, and I hope other people do that too.

D.A. King:

It’s always a good idea to at least ask for, for a driver’s license. That’s a… That’s a good tip. It’s not always… To veer off for a moment, it’s not always an assurance. We do, in Georgia, issue driver’s licenses and state ID cards to somewhere around 20,000 illegal aliens who have a deferral on deportation. They’re still illegal, but we still give them a driver’s license.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, I know you’ve been working with the Dustin Inman Society and some legislators to try to close that loophole, at least have some wor-… Some writing on the license that it’s, um… It’s not, uh, for, for voting, or any other purpose.

D.A. King:

Well, uh, we have, and we, we, we had some limited success in the Senate years ago. Um, Phil, but when I say things like this are, are boring, I can… I can point to something that has a little more direct of wide appeal, and that is the fact that here in Georgia, I’m proud to have worked on it.

We have a law in place that says that all jailers in this state are supposed to use a reasonable effort to determine effectively the immigration status of the prisons in their jail, and report any illegal aliens to the feds.

Now, that law has been on the books in one form or another since 2006, and in the form it’s in now since 2011, when we passed a bill called House Bill 87, um, the law that I just mentioned, and I want to say it again.

The law says that jailers are supposed to determine immigration status as best they can, and report illegals to the feds. Um, that law is being ignored. There’s 150, 160 jails in, in the state of Georgia, and to my knowledge, while I haven’t had time to check all of them, the, the, the lack of compliance is the polite way to put it [inaudible 00:09:31]

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, that’s, that’s appalling. That’s appalling. In fact, I, I would hope our county commissioners all over the state would pressure the Sheriff, the Constitutional officer who- who’s the chief jailer to follow the law, of all people. (laughs) The, the chief law enforcement officer of the county.

D.A. King:

Well, that… I don’t disagree. That’s not happening. I look forward, I know that one of of your guests, I think I heard that you’re going to have District Attorney Bobby Christine on later.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

That’s right, after the 5:00 news, yes. He’s-

D.A. King:

I- I- I- I- I’ve read this gentleman’s, um… His bio, and he’s been a very, very im- impressive official. I, look forward to having the opportunity to talk to him sometime soon about this.

But I, I need to impress upon people, and again, thank you for the time. I, want to make it clear that the federal government has a program that, that allows Sheriffs, or jailers, to check the immigration status, it’s called 287 g.

The law we put in place here in Georgia that applies to all jails was designed to be a plan b, in case 287 g went away. Well, 287g did go away in Gwinnett County, and here where I live, in Cobb County.

But just a couple of, of facts, if I may very quickly-

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Sure.

D.A. King:

To keep people’s interest in this is Gwinnett County, in 2010, or 2009, before the 287g program went into effect, um, the Sheriff ran what was called a “surge”, or a trial test, a 26 day test of, of the efficiency of this 287g program in, in, in which the federal apparatus is used by the jailers to check immigration status.

In 26 days, ICE said they had found and placed detainers on 914 foreign born inmates to put them into deportation proceedings because they were illegal aliens. The numbers in the Gwinnett jail at, at this outset, revealed that 68% of the foreign born population of the jail was here illegally, they were illegal aliens.

54% of that 914 had a previous criminal history, and most of that previous immi-… Previous criminal history was in Gwinnett County. What kind of crimes were, were people being deported?

Um, murder, 13 charges, rape, 15, armed robbery, 28, child molestation, kidnapping, battery, theft, drug dealing. It goes on and on.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, you’re making a good point. You’re making a good point. We’ve got about a minute left, and I want to hold you over from the, uh… The break. Now aren’t there still some counties, and the state police still use 287g?

D.A. King:

Th- there’s the Department of Corrections and the prison system uses 2A7G, and I think there’s four counties that still use [inaudible 00:12:20]

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, I would urge counties to take a look at that because that was a huge public safety tool. I’m talking with D.A. King, the President of the Dustin Imnan Society. I’m gonna hold him over from the break, uh, and also, uh, D.A., I want to ask you about some parental choice school legislation, uh, that, that a lot of people like school choice but there’s a glaring problem, and I want to talk to you about that after the break.

All right, I’m with, uh, Austin Rhodes today, guest hosting. This is Phil Kent, and I hope you’ll stay with us, and don’t forget to text me at 863-5800.

[inaudible 00:13:06]

You’re listening to WGAC, AM 580, it’s Phil Kent guest hosting today on the show, and I want to continue our discussion with D.A. King. He’s an expert in the area of illegal immigration, and were talking about some great information earlier that he has told our listeners about the lack of enforcement, appalling lack of enforcement in Georgia.

And, uh, D.A., thanks for, uh, holding on and, um, being back on the air. Let’s talk… Uh, let’s finish up with that, and let’s talk about this, um, school choice bill you have been telling me about recently.

D.A. King:

It’s m- my pleasure, Phil, and again, thank you. If I may, just, just 20 more seconds.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Sure.

D.A. King:

I, I want people to know that the law that I just mentioned that requires all jailers to use reasonable effort to determine immigration status of illegal aliens in their jail and report it to the feds has no penalty clause in it.

Uh, we didn’t ever dream that people who run jails would, would disobey this law, so here’s some news. You’re probably the first… this is the first time I- I’m aware of it, um, going out public, but I am very, very confident that there will be a bill introduced in the legislature that will produce a strong and deterrent penalty to the jailers who don’t obey the law that we just talked about.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, I’m glad to hear of that. I’m gonna certainly write about it, and, and, and talk about it myself, and hopefully we’ve got some state law makers, uh, in the area in Georgia that are listening, so, uh, thanks for that, uh, D.A.

Go ahead and, and tell us about this, uh, parental choice bill, and your concern.

D.A. King:

Well, there- there- there’s an effort. Um, there were three bills in the last, um, legislative session that were aimed at providing… And I’m not making this up, providing, um, tax payer funded tuition for private schools for people in the country illegally, and it would benefit their entire family.

I’m gonna say it again in a different way. There were three bills under the gold dome that had they passed, would have provided in state tuition… Excuse me. Um, K through 12 private school tuition for illegal aliens.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well that’s a shocker. Now, uh, that was derailed, thankfully, but, um, is… I’m assuming it’s coming back?

D.A. King:

They… The, the information I’m getting is that there will be a push on to do exactly what we just talked about again, and people are calling it school choice, or educational freedom, and I’ve learned that if you talk about this, especially to a conservative audience, it’s a good idea.

So for me personally, I think that the ability for people to get tax dollars to send, um, their kids to a school other than what they’re being taught in the public school system is an excellent idea.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Right.

D.A. King:

I do not think that it behooves us to encourage and reward illegal immigration any more than we already do in the state of Georgia by doing that on the tax payer’s dime.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, that’s right. You don’t want any more magnets, so this is where, uh, you want language to, uh… To make sure that that doesn’t happen.

D.A. King:

We have drafted… I’m not quite done with it, but we’ve drafted language that easily excludes illegal aliens from, quote, unquote, “school choice.” If we take a look right now, um, people in the country illegally cannot qualify for the HOPE Scholarship, the Zell Miller Scholarship.

Um, right now, in state tuition is, is out of reach for people in the country illegally in our public colleges. There is absolutely no reason to, to even consider providing K through 12 private school education.

But when people talk about school choice, the last thing they’re going to hear is anything having to do with illegal immigration, or the fact that here in Georgia, we have more illegal aliens than Arizona.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Well, that’s right. Parental choice good, but, uh, no loophole for the illegals to, uh… To get more tax payer money, and to, to steal slots. D.A. King, give us your website one more time.

D.A. King:

Um, thank you very much, Phil. It’s the new… It’s NewDustinInmanSociety.org. That is our, our main website-

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Wonderful.

D.A. King:

But people are gonna get the most use out of ImmigrationPoliticsGA.com.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Thank you, D.A. King, we appreciate that information today. Best wishes.

D.A. King:

My pleasure. Thank, thank you, Phil.

Guest show host Phil Kent:

Stay with us after the news. You’ve got Phil Kent and Austin Rhodes.

[inaudible 00:21:54]

end.

Filed Under: Older Entires

Unscheduled phone call from Carroll County. attorney and staff, Oct. 24, 2022 10:15 AM-ish

December 11, 2022 By D.A. King

“Per O.C.G.A. 16-11-66, you can record a telephone conversation in Georgia if you are a party to the conversation (on the phone). The recording will typically be admissible evidence at any hearing or trial.” Here.

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On October 24, 2022 around 10:15 AM I took a surprise phone call from Mr. Avery Jackson (a Carroll County attorney) and staffers who wanted to explain changes that had been made in their business license issuing system and to get my acknowledgement that they were now in compliance with state law. I was busy when they called and quickly asked them to call back in five minutes. The below is audio of the return call. That call was about 34 minutes total. Below that is a professional transcription.

Carroll County call to me Re: Changes in system Oct 24, 2022 1043 AM

 

Part 1

https://newdustininmansociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Carroll-County-call-ReChanges-in-system-Oct-24-2022-1043-AM_1of2-2.m4a

Part 2

https://newdustininmansociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Carroll-County-call-ReChanges-in-system-Oct-24-2022-1043-AM_2of2.m4a

Transcription by Rev.com – cost to me: $74.00

Begin call:

“D.A. King:

“D.A…”

Avery Jackson:

Hi Mr. King. It’s Avery Jackson. Is now a good time?

D.A. King:

It, it, it is. I’m sorry. I w- I was not in my office, and, or organized. So yes, sir, I am here now. How can I help you?

Avery Jackson:

Oh, okay, good. I’m, I’m gonna conference in, uh… me, me and you have talked before. I’m the, uh, county attorney for, uh, Carroll County. Or, one of the two. I think you’ve also talked to my law partner, Stacey Blackman. But I wanted to connect, uh, you with, uh, Ben Skipper and Janet Hyde at the community development department, so we could just talk through… I know you have some open records requests. And there’s some other issues, and I just want us all to be on the same page and see how we can get these things resolved.

D.A. King:

Okay, uh… are, are you the same attorney I spoke to one time, uh, in, in the winter about checking with Cobb County to make sure you, you had an example of how to get the affidavits correct?

Avery Jackson:

Uh, we did talk about Cobb County-

D.A. King:

Okay.

Avery Jackson:

… when we spoke before. Um, and, uh, I understand that, uh, that they were doing it, uh, one, one way, and we were… but that there, there may be another way to do it too. Um, and, uh… so Mr. King, I got, uh, I just connected us to Ben Skipper and Janet Hyde so that they could be a part of the conversation and we can kind of see where we need to go from here. Ben and Janet, are y’all on the phone?

Ben Skipper:

We’re here.

Janet Hyde:

We’re here. Hello.

Avery Jackson:

Okay. Um-

Ben Skipper:

Good morning, Mr. King.

D.A. King:

Good morning, everybody.

Ben Skipper:

Good morning. Yeah, let’s, let’s make sure we got this right.

Avery Jackson:

Um, so, I think, uh, and Janet, you correct me if I’m wrong, but Janet has gotten the affidavit from the, uh, the form that the Attorney General’s office has, and has replaced the affidavit that Carroll County was using with the form that the Attorney General office, uh, has prepared. Is that correct, Janet?

Janet Hyde:

That is correct, yes.

Avery Jackson:

Okay. Um, and I guess, and Mr, King, I’m looking… I wanna know if that… if you think that, at least on that particular issue of the affidavit, uh, resolves that if we’re using that form that the Attorney General’s office has provided?

D.A. King:

Okay. The AG’s office was directed by law to create the affidavit for E-Verify, I, I have, I designed it myself. So is that the affidavit you’re talking about? So that the applicant swears to use of the E-Verify system, provides their unique user number and their date that they, um, had the agreement effective? It… are you talking about the E-Verify affidavit?

Janet Hyde:

Um, hang on one second let me go get it.

Avery Jackson:

Uh, so, so you’re the expert then. You created the form so you know exactly what it’s gonna say, (laughs).

D.A. King:

Yeah. And well, believe me. I, I wish I wasn’t.

Avery Jackson:

(laughs). Uh, well Janet I guess is going to get a copy of that, so she can tell you exactly what it says, and which one we’re, we’re using. We can make sure we’re… we are using that correct form.

D.A. King:

Okay. Sometimes you guys, sometimes it helps to understand why things were done, to understand w- why, why the rules are there. What we, what we did originally, is we said, “Okay, we want everybody to swear on an affidavit X Y and Z.” And then a bunch of counties, including ACCG reps told us, “Well, we don’t understand exactly the law.” So we simplified it, we thought, and we standardized the affidavit so the… some little county in South Georgia wasn’t using a different affidavit, um, than a county in Metro Atlanta. invariably, they wouldn’t be the same and they would, they would get it wrong on what the required information was. So, there is a standardized affidavit for each of the three, um, benefits or, or parts of the benefits that people apply for to get a public benefit, uh, including the, the, uh, E-Verify benefit.

So, what we’re trying to do in, in simpler terms was to make sure that somebody in the country illegally has a much di- more difficult time getting a business license, beating on a job with a public employer, in example, Carroll County or, or even working for a contractor who’s working on a public job. Our goal was to simply try to make sure only legal residents have the benefit of all of those advancements in Georgia.

Avery Jackson:

Got it. And that makes perfect sense, uh-

D.A. King:

We thought.

Avery Jackson:

… and I think for-

D.A. King:

(laughs).

Avery Jackson:

Right, (laughs). And I, and I think that, uh, yeah, we wanna make sure we’re complying. I think we fall in that category where I guess we were using a… the non-standardized affidavit and, um, and so we’re… I think we’re moving to use the, the standard affidavit.

D.A. King:

Well that’s, that’s good news. Um, I w- I was curious, before I forget. And I won’t interrupt again, but I’m curious there were on the… when I first started checking on the system there were dates in there. Like, one of them was as off… or as off Ja- January 2013. And then the next time, I looked at a different place at the same time on, on the Carroll County website and there was an affidavit with an effective date where the applicant was swearing to X,Y or Z as of January 2020. Does anybody… is that just a fact that somebody put in a date by mistake and it never got changed? Does anybody know how that happened? And again, you don’t owe me an explanation I was just curious?

Avery Jackson:

I, I believe that the… yes, the, the date just… it was just, uh, ei- either a typo or just never got updated when the year rolled over to the next year.

D.A. King:

Okay, so-

Avery Jackson:

[inaudible 00:06:43].

D.A. King:

I, I, I… if… uh, I can’t tell you on the phone exactly what’s going on without seeing the website. So I’m trying to talk and get on your website at the same time, and I’m not sure I’m smart enough for that, but…

Avery Jackson:

But Jan- Janet, you have that affidavit that we’re now using?

Janet Hyde:

I, I do. I have it right in front of me. Uh, it talks of Private Employer Affidavit Pursuant to O.C.G.A 36-60-6 (d). And then it says, “By executing this affidavit under oath the undersigned private employer verifies one of the following with respect to its applications for a business license, occupational tax certificate, or other document required to operate a business as referenced in reference to the, uh, [inaudible 00:07:26] law. And then it’s got a section one, please check only one. On January 1st, of the below-signed year, the individual, firm, or occupa- or corporation employed more than 10 employees. Or, on January 1st of the below-signed year, the individual, firm, or corporation employed 10 or fewer employees.”

D.A. King:

Okay, a- a- and again-

Janet Hyde:

And it-

D.A. King:

Again, Ms. Hyde, I, I don’t wanna say, “Yeah that’s it,” without, without seeing it. Because I don’t honestly remember what the, what the… all the language in the, in the spaces are. But if, if… did you get it from the, did you get it from the Attorney General’s website?

Ben Skipper:

It’s on the site.

Janet Hyde:

This is the one that came from the Attorney General’s website, yes.

D.A. King:

Okay.

Avery Jackson:

And Janet can we, can we email that to Mr. King, so ho he can look at it and respond to us, or?

Janet Hyde:

Yes, I can do that.

Avery Jackson:

Okay. Perfect. So we’ll… Uh, Mr. King we’ll email you a copy of that so you can look at it and let us know if… make sure we’re… we are using the correct form that we’re, we’re supposed to.

D.A. King:

Okay.

Avery Jackson:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

Are you, are you… like, are you… I say, I say email it now while we’re speaking?

Avery Jackson:

Um, uh, can, can you do that, Janet?

Ben Skipper:

Yeah.

Janet Hyde:

Yeah, let me get it done.

Avery Jackson:

Okay. Yeah, she can do that. Uh, and I guess while she’s doing that, um, is there anything else that if we’re… a- assuming we’re using the correct affidavit now, which hopefully you’ll be able to let us know, uh, is there anything else that we… you think we need to do or other issues that you have concerns about?

D.A. King:

Um, I- I’m trying to remember, just, just so you’ll know I personally have nearly 40 hours in this little self-appointed audit of the Carroll County system, be- because it took me a great deal of time to check and re-check. So, I d- I did that so that I would be accurate, and I don’t wanna tell you something wrong while I’m just scrolling through here. I can tell you how it looks or I can tell you tomorrow but I don’t wanna give you a definitive answer right now on the-

Avery Jackson:

Sure.

D.A. King:

… phone because-

Avery Jackson:

Yep.

D.A. King:

… I don’t.

Avery Jackson:

Yeah. No, no, I’m… I don’t mean to put you on the spot and tell you out of the blue to do that. So no, uh, a- absolutely. I just wanted to make the connection with you and, and see if we can, with Ben and Janet, and see if we can just all put our heads together. And since you are the expert, you can let us know the issues or concerns as you see them and then we can try to, uh, try to address, address those. [inaudible 00:10:02].

D.A. King:

Okay, let’s, let’s do this before I forget. Because well, on the phone last winter I, I, I remember the phone call vividly because I couldn’t keep straight in my head Carrollton City of and Carroll County, um, ’cause I had spoke to people-

Avery Jackson:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

… to, to… in multiple places. And, and I [inaudible 00:10:21]. But I remember the phone call when I was taking a walk with my wife and I suggested, “Take a look at Cobb County and do it the way they do it.” And what you- what you’re remembering is I told you that they are going over and above what the law requires but the- they’re, they’re diligence insures that they will not ever get it wrong. And it, and it goes like this. The law is a, is a minimum statement. The law doesn’t say, “You cant’ do more to ensure that people in the country illegally don’t get X,Y or Z.” But the law says, “Here’s the minimum.” What Cobb County does is they require… Every time I, for example r- renew my business license, I have to check the affidavit box that I’m eligible for that particular public benefit.

Even though I’m a US citizen. So, people get kind of upset when they have to do that but quite frankly i- it takes any, any possibility of violation off of your office. Because the law says that once I have proven to my business license department that I am a US citizen I don’t have to continually prove that every year upon renewal, because the chances of me losing my citizenship are very, very slim. In my case they are zero, but if I was a naturalized American, it is possible to lose that naturalization, um, status. You, you… are you with me?

Avery Jackson:

I, I think so, Ben are you?

Ben Skipper:

Yeah, we’re, we’re listening.

D.A. King:

Oh, oh, okay. So, if you do it the way Cobb County’s doing it, you would require the, the applicant for renewal, for example on this benefit of a, of a business license, to fill out the affidavit, every year. That is not required by the law. The law says, once I… once the applicant has proven to you or sworn to you that he is a US citizen, when he comes back next year he does not have to do that again. It doesn’t mean you can’t ask him to do it again, but it, it removes that variable from d- do we have to do this paperwork and can we keep track of Joe Smith status from last year?

Now, you, you have a relatively small amount of, of business licenses compared to Cobb County so, you know, it makes it easier on both ends. But that’s up to you. I just wanted you to know what I… why I was mentioning Cobb County, uh, last year and that was what I just described. And I know it’s confusing, honest.

Avery Jackson:

Yeah no I, I think I understand that and I think what, what a- at least, uh, my understanding is that, like you said, some people do get upset when like they are a US citizen and they have to fill out that every year and they don’t understand why they have to, to do that. Um, a- and that can make them mad. So I think our, our thoughts were that we wanted to comply with the law, uh, but not, uh, necessarily go as far as Cobb County does, unless we felt that we were missing people where there would be an issue but as you said, we, we have such a small amount of business license compared to Cobb County. Our thought was that we could track, uh, if anybody was, uh, uh… i- if there were a potential issue where they needed to renew or sign that every year that would attract those particular cases or instances.

D.A. King:

Well, that- that’s up to you. As long as I made… as long as I explained that again, you know. Again, your… certainly, your choice.

Avery Jackson:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

But by, by doing it the Cobb County way there’s never going to be a, a possibility of going out of compliance, so.

Avery Jackson:

Yes. And, and it may be that we need to do that, you know in the future we can look at it again and see, uh, because you’re… I mean, you are right that’s the way to ensure that you don’t miss anybody, uh.

D.A. King:

Okay, so right now I’m, I’m talking to you and I’m trying to go online and find… I guess I can get onto my own website. (laughs). I’m trying to find the AG-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:14:56].

D.A. King:

I’m sorry?

Ben Skipper:

We, we, we emailed you the… what we’re using.

D.A. King:

Ye- yes sir, I- I’m looking at it.

Ben Skipper:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

But you see, I need to compare it to what I see on the website to get-

Ben Skipper:

Oh, you’re-

D.A. King:

On the AG website to give you an-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:15:07].

D.A. King:

… to give you an answer.

Ben Skipper:

Oh yeah, well. Well, I, I think all parties here we’re interested in doing it correct, (laughs).

D.A. King:

Um, so again you just have to excuse me until I find this. And I don’t-

Avery Jackson:

Yeah, no, that’s fine. [inaudible 00:15:24]. Take your time.

D.A. King:

I don’t do… I don’t know why I’m having such a difficult time finding it right now, but… Georgia AG affidavit. Hmm.

Avery Jackson:

And sorry to call you up out of the blue, we were just all looking at this, this morning and trying to make sure that we had the right one and that we’re getting in compliance and we said, “Well, why don’t we just call up Mr. King today, (laughs)? He’s the, he’s the expert and he can, uh, let us know so we can make sure, (laughs).”

D.A. King:

You guys know that you’re supposed to file a report ever year, uh, affectively saying “We’re in compliance with the law”, right?

Avery Jackson:

The [inaudible 00:00:17] verify law?

D.A. King:

Um… the, uh… 531, the- the- the save, the public benefits part of it. I know we have that in there.

Avery Jackson:

Okay. I did-

D.A. King:

But-

Avery Jackson:

… I did, but [inaudible 00:00:34]-

D.A. King:

Ple- ple- please remember that I- I- I worked with this for years and years and years, but I have not worked with it in years and years and years. So I don’t like giving definitive answers to questions unless I can see exactly what we did. Um…

Avery Jackson:

Sure. I guess what-… so what we do is that every year HR sends out a request, uh, because there- there is a, um… uh… a report that they send out every year about being verified and stuff and, uh, Ben, your office sends in that information to HR who then reports it, is that correct?

Ben Skipper:

Right.

Avery Jackson:

So we believe that we are taking that correct step every year.

D.A. King:

Hmm. Okay, I’m looking at an affidavit on the attorney general’s website. And it doesn’t fit my memory, and it doesn’t fit what you just sent me, I don’t think.

Speaker 4:

Avery, this is what Stacey sent me and she said it was from the AG’s website, so…

D.A. King:

Yes ma’am. Yes ma’am. Right- right now… I just clicked on the same link twice and got a different… this is really wild y’all. You-… I- I hate that you guys have to listen to me talk to myself. But, um… I’m gonna mail this back to Miss Hide.

Speaker 4:

Yes.

D.A. King:

I’m- I’m just gonna put here A-

Speaker 4:

I’m sorry, that was [inaudible 00:02:16].

D.A. King:

… A G, so I- I- I think we’re- I think we’re looking at the same affidavit. But just so you’ll know, I clicked on the link a minute ago and I got an unfamiliar affidavit. I clicked on it a third time, unless I am crazier than I thought this morning, I’m getting something different.

Avery Jackson:

(laughs)

D.A. King:

I’m not kidding. So anyway, the affidavit that popped up just now, I- I think, is the same affidavit that you sent me via email.

Avery Jackson:

Okay.

D.A. King:

I just sent it to Miss Hide so… it- it looks the same to me, yes.

Avery Jackson:

Okay. And so, uh… Janet’s gonna put that or has put that on the website already, so that’s the affidavit that we’re using and will be using going forward. Um… let’s see. And, uh, is there any other issues or concerns? And again, I- I don’t wanna put you on the spot. So if you think of anything, uh… you know, we can have another call later this week or- or something if we need to. Uh, but I just wanted to see if there’s any other issues or concerns, um, that, uh, that you had or- or…

D.A. King:

Uh, I- I-

Avery Jackson:

I appreciate the- the information about Cobb County and-… but if there’s any other [inaudible 00:03:43]-

D.A. King:

Okay, no, all right, I understand. So here-… I- I don’t- I don’t remember, again, you can’t believe the amount of scrutiny I- I’ve put into this, ’cause I don’t wanna put my name on a- a- a 1200 word article in your paper and be wrong. And I-… it-… there’s not a sent-… there’s not a word in there that is not accurate, and I’m very proud of that.

Avery Jackson:

Right.

D.A. King:

So…

Avery Jackson:

Right.

D.A. King:

I don’t wanna- I don’t wanna start now with a- with a phone call. But I wanna be sure-

Avery Jackson:

No.

D.A. King:

… I don’t remember if you’re collecting the secure and verifiable ID documents?

Avery Jackson:

Okay.

D.A. King:

Are you?

Avery Jackson:

Ben?

Ben Skipper:

What- what [inaudible 00:04:22] when you say that, that we’re collecting the-

D.A. King:

Okay.

Ben Skipper:

Are you talking about their driver’s license?

D.A. King:

Well, it could be a driver’s license. Yes. There’s a whole list. We- we- we- we decided-

Ben Skipper:

Well yes, we get- we get that-

D.A. King:

You are- you are doing it?

Ben Skipper:

… [inaudible 00:04:39] every business. Yes.

D.A. King:

Okay.

Ben Skipper:

I just didn’t understand the terminology [inaudible 00:04:48], so…

D.A. King:

Okay.

Ben Skipper:

Yeah.

Avery Jackson:

I guess because… and the reason it is is because the thing that we ask for is the driver’s license and that’s what everybody mostly has, right?

D.A. King:

Well, yeah. It’s-… that gets into a gray area. I’m not gonna confuse you with that right now. I’ll wait a minute for that. But I guess that, um… to [inaudible 00:05:08] address, secure and verifiable ID. Um… what did I send?

Speaker 4:

I don’t [inaudible 00:05:17] this, so I’m not sure what the documents say Ben.

Ben Skipper:

Yeah. No [inaudible 00:05:20]-

D.A. King:

Okay, that’s- that’s what I’m trying to tell you. People can send you a- a variety-… copies of a variety of documents that the-… we gave the AG a lot of leeway in saying which documents were acceptable. And what we were trying to do is more be exclusive, like we did not want, um, people in the country illegally to send you an ID card they obtained from their home nations council. They called a matricula consular card. So we just excluded some documents. The AG is telling you what documents you can accept.

Avery Jackson:

Got it.

D.A. King:

So I- I- I can’t remember… I don’t think you-… I don’t- I don’t remember that I- that I noticed that you were collecting those documents previously. Find my way back to your website. So, if I- if I apply for… if I send in a request for open records for all the documents that X, Y, Z business filed for their business license last year, it would entail you sending back to me or anybody who asked, all of the documents would include their affidavit and a copy of their secure and verifiable ID. In your case, you’re using a driver’s license, that’s fine. Um… but you would- you would have to send me a- a redacted copy of their driver’s license. I’ve- I’ve done it in- in multiple places. Some people do it, some people don’t, but the law requires it.

Avery Jackson:

Right. Yeah.

D.A. King:

So-

Avery Jackson:

And- and Ben you-… and- and Ben, you think we are doing this? If- if somebody made that request we would have those driver’s license with the affidavit in the file?

Ben Skipper:

Uh…

Speaker 4:

[inaudible 00:07:37] you. Now you would-

Ben Skipper:

Okay, the new ones we always done this, and this is back to where what D.A.’s talking about on renewals. And I’m sitting here with Tina, one of the business license clerks, and she’s tell us that we are now requiring it on renewals too.

D.A. King:

Tha- that is-… that-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:07:58]. Where before, Avery, we-… what- what D.A.’s saying is what we did, was- was the state law. You come in, you fill it out one time, and you come back to renew, if there’s no changes we didn’t get anything. But Tina’s now telling me, now even on renewals we’re- we’re getting your driver’s license again. Or a passport or-

D.A. King:

Okay, yeah, that- that- that-

Ben Skipper:

… your- your, uh-

D.A. King:

… that- that- that sounds right. So the- the- the- the- the variable here, and I’m sorry to, uh, it’s hard for me to be very eloquent this morning. But you-… if I- if I qualify for a business license because I am here with a green card. I’m not a US citizen, but I’m here legally, okay? I-… you- you are supposed to ask me to prove that status with that affidavit and that ID every year. Because I can lose that- that lawful presence, quote unquote, that legal status. That can go away from one year to the other.

Ben Skipper:

And Tina’s shaking her head yes, she knows exactly what you’re talking about.

D.A. King:

All right, so-

Ben Skipper:

She’s saying that’s what she’s doing.

D.A. King:

You- you- you only required to make a US citizen prove that status one time in the same office for the same benefit. You know? But if somebody goes to, I don’t know if you have like a-… if you have the housing department, for example. A- anything out of the Carroll County Department of Community Development, if that same person goes and applies for a- a- a- a home loan or whatever’s outside of your-… you-… your office, then they have to start all over and- and prove their status again. It’s not the-… it’s not a county thing, it’s an office thing.

Ben Skipper:

Right.

D.A. King:

All right.

Ben Skipper:

Okay.

D.A. King:

Again, le- let me- let me say, I feel sorry for people who have to learn this. Uh, but… you know, it’s- it’s all done for a reason. It- it ma- it makes sense to us and we fought like tigers to get it through. Don’t care who else is listening, but ACCG and GMA, A, fought us every step of the way, and B, I think they’ve done an abysmal job of ensuring compliance and explaining this to people in- in a periodic, uh, format so that the n-… the- the new guy in- in whatever desk at whatever department has to- has to re-learn this all- all by themselves, without any guidance. So… you welcome to pass that on to those guys if you want to.

Avery Jackson:

(laughs). All right. Uh… so it sounds like we are using the- the Cobb County method now. Um… so, um… is there-… I’m just trying to think of through, is there anything, uh… and again, I’m not putting you on the spot. But, uh, and I wanted to, while we were talking about it this morning, just ask you and then if- if you think of anything later this week or reviewing your- your notes and information, uh, you know, we would be glad to- to talk with you a- again and see what we can get, uh, resolved. Um… but it, uh, hopefully… I guess if we’re using the correct affidavit now and we’re going above and beyond what the law-… the minimum law states and we’re getting the secure and verifiable, uh, documents and affidavit at renewal, um… is there anything else that you can think of off the top of your head today that, uh, that you think-

D.A. King:

I- I- I- I- I- I can’t, and I- I’m gonna use the caveat that just because I can’t right now doesn’t mean there isn’t one. But it doesn’t sound like it to me, no sir. So… when I asked for these open records requests in the last six weeks, however long it’s been, I never got anything have to do with secure and verifiable ID. So when you say “That’s what we’re doing”, are you saying you started collecting the secure and verifiable ID just very recently or that I didn’t get sent those- those copies?

Ben Skipper:

Very recently, is what Tina’s saying.

D.A. King:

All right. So you- you- you weren’t collec-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:12:18]-

D.A. King:

… you weren’t doing-

Ben Skipper:

… [inaudible 00:12:20] I guess what I’m saying, it is-… we’ve made a lot of changes since these things-… since we’ve been in communication, Mr. King, is that… we- we- we’ve made a lot of changes, we’ve changed the website, we’re changing what we’re doing upfront, trying to be in the law. So…

D.A. King:

We- we- well that’s good. Believe me, there’s- there’s-… I have other things to do. I’m 70 years old, I don’t want anybody to think I’m sitting around trying to put somebody, you know, on the spot. But I- I- I worked about 12 years of my life to get these laws into place and, um, I’m- I’m now trying to get them, you know, get some compliance. So I-… there’s- there’s no animosity on my end, but there is a lot of determination.

Avery Jackson:

Absolutely. And there’s none on our end either. We just wanna make sure we’re-… we- we make the appropriate changes and- and start, uh, uh, operating like, uh, like we should.

D.A. King:

All right. So has- has-… can I ask you? Has- has someb-… have you had an application process yet in which you are using the correct affidavits and collecting the secure and verifiable ID?

Ben Skipper:

Yes.

D.A. King:

All right. So I’m gonna do an open records request. That way I can- I can-… I’ve done my due diligence before and after. So I’ll do that and- and that’ll be great to get that information. Um… I’ll have to figure out what business to ask for or the la-… I’ll just ask for like the last five affidavits, try to make it easy on your end. But that will-… for me, that will close the book on this and I’ll- I’ll make sure I say as much.

Avery Jackson:

Okay. Uh… that sounds good sir. You’re gonna submit the open records request and then Ben will get the last five, uh, that we’ve done, um, and-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:14:11] all the new paperwork.

Avery Jackson:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

Yeah. So you can see what I’m looking for. I’m- I’m looking for, okay, I’ve seen ’em do it wrong and now I’ve seen ’em do it, um, in- in- in a way that complies with the law.

Ben Skipper:

I understand.

D.A. King:

Okay. So, are you going- are you going-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:14:27] all parties-

D.A. King:

I’m sorry?

Ben Skipper:

We- we- we can go ahead and do that Avery, you don’t have to-

Avery Jackson:

Yes.

Ben Skipper:

… send an email. We’re standing here talking so you don’t need to send me an email. So what I’m gonna do is- is when we get off the phone, I’ll have staff pull the last five and then we will send them to you.

D.A. King:

Okay, well-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:14:45]-

D.A. King:

… as long as you- you-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:14:46] you get something wrong, you just give us a call back on the phone and we’ll fix that.

D.A. King:

Okie dokie. Um… I was go- gonna say something, I forgot. Sorry. All right, well I’ll- I’ll- I’ll-… if it’s the last- if it’s the last [inaudible 00:15:00]-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:15:00] expert. (laughs)

D.A. King:

I’m sorry?

Ben Skipper:

Uh, like you said, you are an expert on this, so-… and we’re just trying to make sure we get it right.

D.A. King:

Okay. Um, if- if- if the last five entails, um, the business license and it has… well you-… okay, yeah, that’ll work.

Ben Skipper:

Yeah, we gonna send you the last five and we-… and- and we want you to… if something’s wrong, let us know, and then Avery, we will work on fixing that.

D.A. King:

Okay. Well I-… well- well I’m gonna-

Ben Skipper:

All we want is to be in compliance.

D.A. King:

I understand. But I’m gonna feel better if I send an open records request, and I can say I- I-… you-… send it- it-… you-… sent it to me, but just… what- what we wanna see is, as if I sent an open records request, please send me all of the documents collected for the last-

Ben Skipper:

For the last-

D.A. King:

… five applications for, uh, occupational tax license, yadda, yadda.

Ben Skipper:

Yadda, yadda. All right. Well, send us the email and we’ll start working on it.

D.A. King:

All right. So you do want the email?

Ben Skipper:

Well I thought you said you was gonna send one anyways.

D.A. King:

(laughs). Well, I- I- I-

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:16:11] but I can-

D.A. King:

… I will if you want, yeah. It’s probably better if I send it so I’ll-… I will send it, and I’m sorry to talk over you.

Ben Skipper:

[inaudible 00:16:16] the last five-… you’re- you’re gonna get a email with the last five. Me, Janet, Avery and D.A. and Stacey are gonna be copied with our last five. So…

D.A. King:

Okay. All right. That- that- that’s a big help. So I- I- I hope that I have- that I have helped and, again, I take no responsibility for anything I may have forgotten to say. But… um, I’m kidding.

Avery Jackson:

Yeah.

D.A. King:

I- I-

Avery Jackson:

If you think of anything, we’re-… the- the lines of communication are open, so feel free to give us a call and let us know.

D.A. King:

Okay. All right you guys. Thank you very much.

Avery Jackson:

Thank you.

Ben Skipper:

Thank you.

Avery Jackson:

We appreciate.

D.A. King:

Yes sir.

Avery Jackson:

Swell. Bye.

 

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CIS report: GA leading the way in reduced immigration enforcement – Interior Immigration Enforcement Decline Under Biden: State and Local Statistics 287(g)

December 8, 2022 By D.A. King

Center for Immigration Studies

Jessica Vaughan is the director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies. She would like to thank Karen Zeigler for her assistance with data analysis on this report.

 “There were 50 counties, parishes, or territories with a minimal baseline volume of enforcement where the number of criminal removals dropped by 90 percent or more. Eight of these were in Georgia.

  • The high-volume counties with the steepest decline in removals of locally arrested criminals were Gwinnett County, Ga.; Plymouth County, Mass.; Bergen County, N.J.; and Kankakee County, Ill. Criminal removals dropped by more than 90 percent in these jurisdictions.

    By Jessica M. Vaughan on December 8, 2022

    Immigration enforcement in the interior of the country has dropped dramatically under President Biden’s policies. These policies have exempted nearly all but the most serious criminal aliens from arrest and removal and have imposed cumbersome new procedures and paperwork for ICE officers to complete cases.1 According to ICE records, the number of removals nationwide declined from 186,000 in FY 2020 to 59,000 in FY 2021.2 Although Biden officials say that the policies were established in order to prioritize the removal of the most serious deportable criminal offenders, in fact the result has been a decline in the removal of criminal aliens as well as other types of cases. For example, the number of removals of convicted felons nationwide dropped from 36,000 in FY 2020 to 27,000 in FY 2021.3

    This report presents new information on the decline in ICE enforcement at the state and local level. Using records obtained through a FOIA request, we examine trends in removals of aliens who were identified by ICE under the Secure Communities program. These are removal cases that originate because the alien has been arrested locally for a crime. They do not include border cases, fugitives, worksite arrestees, or other categories of ICE removals. They are a good measure of interior enforcement involving the public-safety-oriented cases that should be a high priority for ICE.

    Key Findings:

    • Under Biden enforcement priorities, there was a 71 percent decline in removals of deportable aliens who came to ICE’s attention due to a local criminal arrest.
    • Ten states experienced an extreme decline in enforcement of greater than 80 percent under Biden policies (Connecticut, Georgia, Idaho, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, North Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Vermont).
    • Of the 50 U.S. counties that typically have the most criminal alien removals, 14 experienced extreme declines (greater than 80 percent) under Biden policies. About one-third of these high-volume counties are in Texas.
    • The high-volume counties with the steepest decline in removals of locally arrested criminals were Gwinnett County, Ga.; Plymouth County, Mass.; Bergen County, N.J.; and Kankakee County, Ill. Criminal removals dropped by more than 90 percent in these jurisdictions.
    • There were 50 counties, parishes, or territories with a minimal baseline volume of enforcement where the number of criminal removals dropped by 90 percent or more. Eight of these were in Georgia.
    • In one representative county, Howard County, Texas, under Biden policies just half the number of criminals convicted of homicides were removed than before, and there also were steep drops in removals of criminals convicted of assault, burglary, drugs, larceny, and sex offenses….
    • Please read the entire report here at CIS.org

 

 

 

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